Use proper English or Standard Malay please - Page 4

starsearcher · #46 (**permalink**) 12-06-2006, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by vincevincevince

I don't mind what language you speak, but until the level of english in Malaysia is generally improved it is actually hindering your fellow Malaysians if you write with broken english. Not everyone has mastered english and many are still learning from what they read.

The other side of the coin is that my Malay is very very poor but I am slowly trying to learn. Much of the Malay you write here is very difficult for me to understand, even with the benefit of a dictionary. Why? Because much of the language is 'slang' or full of 'shortcuts'.

Yes, it will be difficult to learn because the language they speak here is not really the "Bahasa Malaysia" we learn in school. They use their own "bahasa kampung" (not sure if this is what it's called, correct me if I'm wrong.)

corallinkz · #47 (**permalink**) 26-06-2006, 09:23 PM

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Yes, it will be difficult to learn because the language they speak here is not really the "Bahasa Malaysia" we learn in school. They use their own "bahasa kampung" (not sure if this is what it's called, correct me if I'm wrong.)

Not a kind of bahasa kampung maa...Like english too. peoples use shortcurts LOL = Laugh out loud.

Not difficult to learn Malay if you want to. IMO, peoples use their own 'sinkof' because they do not have much time to write full since Malay language is full of gramatis and tata plus kesopanan IMO

limcs · #48 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 01:30 PM

I'm not sure about this one.

I thought forum is a place where you discuss things, where proper language is not a necessity. Encourage to write proper english/bahasa is alright, but limiting one to use them is way too much. On the other hand, I would suggest that as long as it is 'understandable', it is fine.

kawan · #49 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 07:23 PM

Good thought, limcs..

Unfortunately, that's not how most people think.

Wldnt it b gr8 if ol of us jz spk plain Eng/BM?

limcs · #50 (**permalink**) 04-07-2006, 10:38 PM

Thanks, kawan.

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Originally Posted by kawan

Wldnt it b gr8 if ol of us jz spk plain Eng/BM?

I need to take a second look to understand that though

kawan · #51 (**permalink**) 07-07-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by limcs

Thanks, kawan.

I need to take a second look to understand that though

Only twice? I took probably 5 minutes to write those.

limcs · #52 (**permalink**) 08-07-2006, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by kawan

Only twice? I took probably 5 minutes to write those.

Haha, you are funny. But seriously, I guess that big problem here is not about the proper english or standard malay, we Malaysian can pretty understand what each other is saying here.

The problem lies in Participation. I realized there are fewer than 5 people posts here everyday, and half of them are spammers/no-brainers just to come here and promote their services. Yes, 5 people from the 5000 members, that's 1 of 1000

kawan · #53 (**permalink**) 08-07-2006, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by limcs

Yes, 5 people from the 5000 members, that's 1 of 1000

Suddenly, I feel very honoured...

It's been like this for a very long time. I think it's time for me to retire from this forum too....

limcs · #54 (**permalink**) 08-07-2006, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kawan

It's been like this for a very long time. I think it's time for me to retire from this forum too....

Oh come'on

this forum has potential, man! Look at the search engine advantage it has! as well as the number of visitors (around 150++ lurkers all the time).

kawan · #55 (**permalink**) 09-07-2006, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by limcs

Oh come'on

this forum has potential, man! Look at the search engine advantage it has! as well as the number of visitors (around 150++ lurkers all the time).

By George!! I think you are right!!!
I can use the site to promote/introduce my sites/services (read: SPAM)!!!

That is what webmastermalaysia has been churning out. Affiliate links, spams, etc. Sigh!

calvynlee · #56 (**permalink**) 12-08-2006, 12:03 AM

i agree with this topic, but i am not blamming those write broken english, i am also not good in my grammar, but AT LEASE write those people can see understand one...i very disapoint with CARI.COM forum, there have alot thing to see, but alot malay write those malay short cut work, i totally dont understand what they write, ask them to write in more proper they some more say this is their style, if don like no one force me to browse...what a bad attitude they have..realy wan to "@##$$%%^**!@##" them

mysticmind · #57 (**permalink**) 14-08-2006, 01:00 AM

Sebenarnya, dari sudut yang berbeza. menaip dalam bahasa malaysia penuh adalah amat memenatkan. Kerana perkataannya sangatlah panjang. Dalam sesetengah perkara juga, beberapa term tidak sesuai atau tidak tepat hendak digunakan.

Jadi dari sini lahirlah bahasa atau perkataan singkatan yang sememangnya sukar untuk dimengertikan. Saya juga memohon maaf kadangkala saya sendiri turut menggunakan kata singkata, tapi selalupun saya lihat pada orang yang bertanya. Sekiranya beliau bertanya dengan formal, saya akan cuba jawab formal. Begitulah sebalik. Walau apapun, menaip dalam skala bahasa standard ini adalah AMAT MEMENATKAN! DAN MENGAMBIL MASA YANG PANJANG..

Selain itu ia kelihatan agak lucu bagi saya menaip perkataan dengan sepenuhnya.

limcs · #58 (**permalink**) 14-08-2006, 07:24 AM

Yeah..now that I was so used to reading the "singkatan-version" here, it's kinda weird to see you write in full proper language

kawan · #59 (**permalink**) 14-08-2006, 10:16 AM

Yang pentingnya, mysticmind, ialah orang ramai memahami soalan yang ditanya ataupun tips yang diberikan.

Dari sudut search engine juga bagus sebab orang yang mencari maklumat biasanya gunakan "bahasa standard" dan bukan "bahasa singkat"..

Betul cakap saudara, menaip dalam bahasa standard memang memenatkan...

mysticmind · #60 (**permalink**) 14-08-2006, 12:35 PM

Terimakash, assalamualaikum dan salam sejahtera. Ceh!..

Kadangkala berlaku juga bertanyaan yang mempunyai kata singkatan 'terlampau'. Sehingga saya sendiri pun tidak faham apa yang mereka tanyakan dan ajukan.

Selalupun soalan begini pasti akan merasa 'lazer' dari saya terlebih dahulu. Sudahlah bodoh, tanya soalan tak jelas pula, bila jawab kali kedua pun masih tidak mahu bercerita dengan jelas. Kadangkala mahu sahaja saya carutkan mereka. Hahahaha

Apa-apapun, saya sealu cuba memberikan jawapan kepada mereka , cuma kekejaman saya bukan bersifat jahat, tetapi lebih kepada berterus terang.

Aduh! Mak.. matilah aku nak menaip skema macam nih. nak susun ayat dulu. Salah frasa kene atur semua. Taubat taknak dah..