Use proper English or Standard Malay please - Page 5

calvynlee · #61 (**permalink**) 19-11-2006, 12:31 PM

for me, i fell that no need so proper, at least let people understandable,
b'cos not every one have high education!

yipguseng · #62 (**permalink**) 06-02-2007, 11:30 AM

errm...for me, there are few times when i saw the reply with the languages is in malay where the malay are inproper and hard to understand, i will not continue read it, eg: mastermind's normal reply in malay (no offend ar ^^)

mysticmind · #63 (**permalink**) 06-02-2007, 12:45 PM

mastermind or mysticmind?

I did answer in Bahasa, if the question in Bahasa.

If the question is in English.. I will answer in english.. errr.. i mean broken English

yipguseng · #64 (**permalink**) 06-02-2007, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mysticmind

mastermind or mysticmind?

I did answer in Bahasa, if the question in Bahasa.

If the question is in English.. I will answer in english.. errr.. i mean broken English

hahah, sorry sorry :P is mysticmind

vincevincevince · #65 (**permalink**) 06-02-2007, 05:56 PM

This thread is from 2002! I think it's time the admin starts locking threads after three months...

When you debate what language you should use, just ask yourself what language the internet is written in... head, body, span, table, sound like any language you know? Print, echo, explode, implode.... etc...

genzy · #66 (**permalink**) 07-04-2007, 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yipguseng

errm...for me, there are few times when i saw the reply with the languages is in malay where the malay are inproper and hard to understand, i will not continue read it, eg: mastermind's normal reply in malay (no offend ar ^^)

I too have hard time to understand non-standard Malay, but try my best to guess what it means, as generally we have learned Bahasa in the Baku format in schools.

arthermax · #67 (**permalink**) 23-04-2007, 07:57 PM

Hi ckchin, i would love to use Malay language if only there's more opportunity available for me, though my malay is atrocious. Your message consists of grammer mistakes and redundancies. See below : -

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckchin

Just be respestful to others, use proper English or Standard Malay. Source link: Masters by Thesis (UKM) IT

"To promote this website, in order to let others are (are or to be??) aware of that Malaysia has as well the persons who understand English." - syntax error (sentence confusing) -__-''
I am not the personal (this is adjective, or do you mean person?) who do not understand Malay. But, I dare say that I am the person who have - (have or has??) the more knowledge of Malay Linguistics (Tatabahasa Malaysia) than you. To be professional and promote Malaysia (if you love Malaysia) do use English always so that others from non-Malay background understand what you wrote here.

If you want to challenge me on Malay, then it is very simple. The below 2 sentences are wrong. What are the mistakes of them?

1) Banyak orang berkumpul situ. (2 mistakes here)
2) Begitu juga dengan saya. ( 1 mistake here)

If you know the mistakes, then explain the mistakes.

And oh yes, no hard feeling : )
I think sometimes, the tone of english should always be flexible to match the target audience. You won't talk to your white client in malay+english or with your well known friends in bombastic english words would you?

genzy · #68 (**permalink**) 24-04-2007, 04:28 AM

I'm failed... failed to learn the "dialect/short" style of Bahasa, like the one always used by mysticmind.

seraphangel · #69 (**permalink**) 24-04-2007, 08:58 AM

haha, that's an interesting discussion, but as yipguseng mentioned, if the malay is sooo hard to understand then nobody will continue to read it, if locals can't even understand it foreigners will just skip the thread altogether, and if the whole forum was in malay, tough luck to even have foreigners reading this forum, if you want it to be international, then it's best to use english, if you intend to target more to local audience, sure use your BM, Manglish, whatever, hokkien and cantonese as well maybe?

mysticmind · #70 (**permalink**) 24-04-2007, 11:02 AM

are you sure about that?
since i didn't use many 'short/dialect' in bahasa language, unless the common phase.

Most of the malay (newbie /new member) just don't realize their message was hard to understand by others. And i always warning them about their SMS language. And advice them to write in proper and easy for other to understand what's their problem.

The typically malay newbie those use SMS message, most of them dont ever know to speak/write in english. So we must reply in bahasa. I saw many of us still using english while reply.

Start in english thread = answer in english.
start in bahasa = reply in bahasa.
Start in chinese language = you reply lah.. i don't know how.

If they're really well good writen in English. I dare to say they won't join here.. better they ask anything in Sitepoint.com / digitalpoint.com bla bla bla.. RIGHT?

seraphangel · #71 (**permalink**) 24-04-2007, 11:07 AM

haha i'm not saying that you reply in short dialect mysticmind, but I've seen a few posts here that I just find hard to understand and in the end I just skipped their posts altogether, neh, won't be posting in mandarin, too lazy to type chinese characters.

yipguseng · #72 (**permalink**) 25-04-2007, 10:42 AM

true on the usage of sms Malay language is super hard to understand coz is not as some are not as easy understand as short-form such as tentang - ttg.

sms language like, this - "X" man, at 1st i really have a really hard to figuring out wat was this until i read it over and over again to find out that it is "tak" or "tidak"

this is just an example

genzy · #73 (**permalink**) 28-04-2007, 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yipguseng

true on the usage of sms Malay language is super hard to understand coz is not as some are not as easy understand as short-form such as tentang - ttg.

sms language like, this - "X" man, at 1st i really have a really hard to figuring out wat was this until i read it over and over again to find out that it is "tak" or "tidak"

this is just an example

We don't understand them because we don't practise using them/seldom use them in our life. If we always use them, no doubt we will understand them.

Google · #74 (**permalink**) 28-04-2007, 12:18 PM

for me language is for us to communicate..
any language weather it's malay or broken english..
just as long as the other party understand what we are trying to say..
then it's okay

seraphangel · #75 (**permalink**) 30-04-2007, 11:23 PM

actually if it's normal short form might still be understandable, but some are using those 'slanged' malay which we are totally not familiar with, making it quite hard if not impossible to understand.

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