Dear webmaster,

case 1

just to survey, i am new in this field, recently receive a job, my client request to build a ecommerce website, (not require c.card payment, bank in will do) and my client show me the competitor website, is from OScommerce system

so if i setup a basic OScommerce for my client (basic mean normal logo changes and add product only, without much customise)... What are the sugest price should i charges my client (without domain and hosting cost)

case 2

another normal website, no php or SQL thing..just design few pages of product only... client only wan to show it to their client

How much do i need to charges for a page?

i need some advice,

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case 1:
normally i just charge per man day basis...
example. 10days X RM400/day = RM4000
just determine what rate you wanted to charge per day basis... but most of the time it will be determined by the customer budget.. there's hardly a standard rate for this thing coz the work we do is quite subjective. Its all depends on how much you wanted.

Sometimes, i do thing for free too for goodwills and marketing purposes..

case 2:
its about Rm80 - 100+ /page... if the customer have more pages, then you can offer a lower price per page... its largely depends on the complexity of the design (eg. image, anination, flash) and how long you can complete the website coz you don't want to do a website of 5 pages for the whole month... tats not economical....

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em..thank for your opinion.... i will consider it...

For case 2... i think i need to come out a standard, probably set certain number of picture for a page, if more picture will charges more...

But for case one... due to i am doing part time and day time i have my job... it is hard to calculate by days... if calculate by per project, how much normally the charges for setup a e-commerce website with open source system?(client request not much, just a simple and live website, will consider improve future)

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Before charging your clients make a basic rate-plan for your self-reference and integrity. You can get an estimate of this by searching for freelance projects.
Also make a rate on hourly basis.

My final suggestion: try to make your rate at per with the market.

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Several other freelancers' rate I know of..

Normal static webpages (5-10 pages) =RM800 - RM1500

Ecommerce website = around RM2000 - RM3000

Hope this can give you as a reference, Calvyn.

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well, thank for all your valuable opinion...i should use all your data and draw out my own rate plan as brandrocker mention...thank again

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on the other hand, how u guys collect payment?

upon project finish?

how about domain registration and hosting also?

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for payment, usually will be by mean of cheque, cash, bank-in and its up to the convinience of the customer. Mostly they will do with cheque and request for an invoice/receipt from you coz they will use threat that jobs as an expenses to their acc and for tax purposes.


for hosting and domain registration, i collect full payment upon confirmation coz once a setup, it will be activated for one year and the domain registered owner is the client name. if the customer cancel the work, the control of domain and hosting will be passed back to the client.

for other work like web design / programming, i usually collect via stages like 50% deposit upon order and balance upon delivery. If the project is large, the payment will usually have more stages like 30% deposit, 30% upon prototype, 30% upon live run and balance upon project handover.

ohh.. all payment collected in all the stages is not refundable if the client cancel the work order.

This is just to saveguard ourself if the customer is not that serious. Serious and committed customer will have no problem with it. When they ask why deposits, just say its as a commitment fees for you and them to finish the work in timely manners...

hope tats helps...

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great, now i have some idea on collection the payment...

fulll payment for hosting and domain upon comfirmation and

stage by stage on the webdesign it self...

thank alot dude...

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Plan well before proceeding. If you need a business plan there are many resources available here. Simply search for it and use it as a guideline. Also you need to take care of quality of service and in-time delivery. And it needs detailed planning as well.

Wish you every success 'Calvynlee'.

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Thank Man.... This is my 1st few project, hope it can success... May be earn less is not problem...important is the reputation

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yep... u r right on track with that right mindset...always dare to give give first before asking for more...
do this one good and the next one even better... that how we all gain our ground and trust...

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iamfreelancer,

In my case, you can see my site at Laman7.com
Case 1 - for shopping cart, i charge about RM 3000 (more or less), oscommerce or virtuemart.

Case 2 - i charge about RM200 per page. its expensive because its a job i dont like. in reflect to that, i always want my client to use dynamic page or CMS.

why? MALAYSIAN ARE SO LAGGING IN CONTENT! i want people in malaysia to write more about their product. always encourage client to update themselves. saves you time when they change their mind about the content. also you can just charge them if the dont want to update content.

Case 1, RM3000 including maintenance, not bad... ist include those add product job? i mean when client have new product to add in...

your service have a lot, even the template also have 600 choice

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i usually build my own template. its hard using template monsters. very beautiful but hard to play around with. you move and edit a bit, the whole template looks ruin. you get what i mean.

my fav quote to client, you pay for merc, you get a merc. you cannot pay for a kancil and expect a merc.

i usually input some for them. the rest they can figure it out. RM3000 is really small.