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Old 05-06-2008, 10:53 AM
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Fuel Price Hefty Increased In Sudden!!!

fuel price hefty increased in sudden is a truth and unescapable!!! so please don blame each other anymore.. we should do something from now onwards, for those lower income group should not rely on single source income otherwise will suffer more in the end..

alternatively, we should spend more time to stay at home wif our family and parents...this will reduce our transportation fees indirectly!!!!
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Looks like the car that runs on air being developed in France may be a great option in the future.
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is there other oil alternative..NGV
the reason why is increasing should be
supply should concerns, many other issues have also had some effect
on oil prices. Labour strikes, hurricane threats
to oil platforms, fires and terrorist threats at refineries,
and other short-lived problems are not solely responsible for the higher prices.

Such problems do push prices higher temporarily, but have not historically been fundamental
to long term price increases assuming.

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Looks like the car that runs on air being developed in France may be a great option in the future.
I can supply air at RM0.80/litre + p&p, just call 016 BUY FUEL now!
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Old 05-06-2008, 02:51 PM
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transportation cost increase which will leads to product price increase too... sooner or later everyone will feel the chain effects on this... motorist just feel it first hand....
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I can supply air at RM0.80/litre + p&p, just call 016 BUY FUEL now!
I am not sure if you think I was joking, so here are a couple of links with photos and descriptions for anyone to check out. India's Tata Group has involvement in this. Compressed air is used. Google for more details.

Photos: MiniCat car runs on compressed air | CNET News.com

Forget biofuel, try a car that runs on air - Times Online
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Using air for running the vehicle...
that was amazing..

Linear,
Are you saying
If we can produce hybrid rechargeable.. ?
I believe there is no expertise in Malaysia yet..
If we got the such company,
technology doesn't help,

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You weren't joking - I was. I hadn't had my dinner at the time, so I rushed to a registrar and bought a domain name so I could sell air for that car. Just a mad idea...
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Old 05-06-2008, 07:59 PM
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seriously !!
well, I like to know more..
my racing remote control need fuel too..
could we get water to move ?
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Old 05-06-2008, 08:39 PM
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It's not really air that powers the car, but pressure. You can't usefully compress water, but you can generate hydrogen from it with enormous amounts of electricity. When you hear people talking about 'hydrogen economy', they're mostly talking about hydrogen from water. Then you can transport the hydrogen and keep it in storage until you need to use it. When you burn it, you produce water again - totally non-polluting!

The big problem for the nations who use the most fuel is dual - no water and expensive electricity. Malaysia ought to be at the forefront of developing these kinds of technologies - plenty of water and too much power from the sky. But you still have fossil fuels, which are a marvellous commodity to be long in right now. No need to work hard!

You could probably run your remote control car off air right now - just buy a can of compressed air (like for cleaning electronics), and adapt the throttle servo so that it pushes the valve in, then fit a paddle wheel on the back axle - it might work quite well. Maybe not much torque for starting. When you see the videos of the French-designed air car it seems like there's no torque for starting either, but I'm fairly sure it uses pistons to convert pressure to torque.
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Wan Azizah berkata, Malaysia adalah negara pengeksport minyak mentah, justeru harga petrol dalam negara perlu dibandingkan dengan negara-negara pengeksport minyak seperti UAE RM1.19 seliter, Mesir RM1.03 seliter, Kuwait RM0.67 seliter, Saudi Arabia RM0.38 seliter, Nigeria RM0.32 seliter dan Venezuela RM0.16 seliter.
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Well, guess I'll just have to travel less and wait for my RM625 rebate next year

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Are you saying
If we can produce hybrid rechargeable.. ?
I believe there is no expertise in Malaysia yet..
If we got the such company,
technology doesn't help,
Not everyone has expertise in everything. That is what sharing is all about.

Many years ago, there was a push for technology transfer. That is how Proton started off with Japanese involvement. Why can't Proton tie up with overseas companies doing such new innovations as it will benefit us all in the long run.

Companies like Petronas have more than enough funds to participate in such technology. They seem to have lots of money to sponsor F1 team. Those race cars uses fuel and go round in circles. I think they are working on some new type of engine, bio-diesel or something? But something like a hybrid or air-powered engine may be more useful to us all.

See the car in action:
YouTube - The Air Car
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I never think F1 are moving around circles, too wasted
we should get solar system alternative for raised the matter
else, bio hydrogen are well good too..
Proton is helping to product the Japan cars..
could we find malaysia extreme engineering..
there's a lot.. lack opportunity to exposed
Have we grow up by managing Malaysia cars ?
Is Naza ourselves ? or Perodua ? which technology better ?
Are we afraid building our own ?


Thanks seanie,
for the brilliant idea
getting creative...
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Not everyone has expertise in everything. That is what sharing is all about.

Many years ago, there was a push for technology transfer. That is how Proton started off with Japanese involvement. Why can't Proton tie up with overseas companies doing such new innovations as it will benefit us all in the long run.

Companies like Petronas have more than enough funds to participate in such technology. They seem to have lots of money to sponsor F1 team. Those race cars uses fuel and go round in circles. I think they are working on some new type of engine, bio-diesel or something? But something like a hybrid or air-powered engine may be more useful to us all.

See the car in action:
YouTube - The Air Car

i don't think companies like petronas will funds such fuel replacement RnD... if their core income is replaced... then where is their money come in.... its all bout $$$$

air car, water car, hydrogen car, solar car, electric car tech are well establish today but sad to say that they can't gain much support from the industrial giants coz is all about $$$ again....

infact electric car is already developed by some car manufacturer like honda, toyota, etc and now undergo testing phase in some overseas country.... Google even participated in this matter... seee RechargeIT.org
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this end august the fuel price will be RM 3/ per litre.. assuming
what are really scared is the consumer product are remaining the same..

how does the inflation effects us ?
rebate for RM 625 doesn't help..

simple calculation for 1 day expenses.. those who are still single !!!
-breakfast RM 15 for 2 person at McD
-car parking RM 10 per day.
-car fuel RM 70 full tank (able for 3 days)
-lunch at KLCC RM 55 for 2 person
-hi-tea at 4 pm RM 20 for 2 person
-cigarette RM 9 (dunhill 20)
-dinner at Nelayan Restaurant buffet RM 56 for 2 person (RM28 nett)

Daily expenses = RM 235 ( are you paying by Visa / Mastercard )
the interest will be (shown as Maybank Visa)

Purchases
• 18% p.a. or 1.5% p.m. of the outstanding amount calculated on a daily basis.

Cash Advance
• 18% p.a. or 1.5% p.m. of the cash advance amount calculated on a daily basis.

Monthly income = RM 2700 / that will be average i think

Aren't we working for daily hours / monthly just to gained all the needs ?
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