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Old 04-09-2007, 10:01 PM
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Outgrown my hosting, need advice

Hi,

my site which was launched less than 3 weeks ago already outgrown the limit of my VPS.

looking at the growth rate i believe i need to plan the roadmap at least for the next 2 months.

Current resource usage :

CPU : 1GHz average, maxed at 1.6GHz (and killed by VPS fair-share)
RAM : 365MB average, max 925MB
BW : 80GB daily
Disk IO read : Max 463k, Avg 40k
Disk IO write : Max 44k, Avg 8.1k
Disk Transaction Read : 991/s max, 200/s avg.
Disk Transaction Write : 324/s max, 84/s avg.
Disk Usage : 1.2GB

current registered members : 600
expected registered members : 10,000 after next 2 months
expected disk capacity : 1TB effective (means, add more for RAID)

i'm planning to buy my own server and do co-lo, but still blur on the hardware spec as i never deal with made-to-be-a-server type of machine.

i'm thinking of a Quad-Core Xeon, would it be an overkill to buy a Double-Quad-Core? or should i at least get one that support dual processor.

if a processor spec-sheets specify that the clockspeed is 1.6GHz, is that the speed of it's individual core, or the total sum of all 4 core?

can i order online from malaysia, say from US Dell, and ask them to deliver to NOC in US? Will it be a big trouble to have the Host to send them to another host (or to me) when i terminate the service.

or will it be more economical if i just rent dedicated server?

If i go for a 1U unit, i'm afraid it's trouble to expand. If i go for 3U, it will be a waste until the time i really need the extra.

my file server already suspended my account. I'm using 2 seperate server, one for media file, and the other is for the php files & mysql.

please advice.
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Old 04-09-2007, 10:04 PM
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g/analytics from August 20 (day1) to Sept 3 :

19,351 Visits
272,857 Pageviews
14.10 Pages/Visit
46.57% % New Visits
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Old 05-09-2007, 05:09 AM
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Hello,

Could I know what is the website ?
Actually, your website can be cater by a normal dedicated server (properly configured).
If you are a first timer, do consider a managed services.

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Old 05-09-2007, 05:28 AM
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i'll PM you the URL

consulted a friend, he did some checking...

running : [root@hostname conf]# netstat -nt | grep :80 | wc -l
returns : 751

now that's current request to the server, i have no idea how many people were online (those whose requests have completed).

would it be cheaper if i just pay someone (slavable friends) to do housekeeping on a regular basis? (being malaysian, only when things are darurat )...

the thing with hosting staff is communication barrier. i often find them hard to talk to.

i'm not thinking about advanced config like load balancing + 2 webserver + file server + 1 mysql. want to buy selipar jepun also got no money. end of this month it is projected that i'll eat grass with kicap tamin.

but if i really need to get one, might as well get one that would last the extra mile. IF it's economic to co-lo rather than rent a dedicated.
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Hello,

Looking from your website, I can guess why it is very high traffic.
Your should consider USA server rather than malaysia server.

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Do you know where your visitors from? You should base on your visitors location to choose your Data Centre. If you buy your own dedicated server, who is going to maintain for you? I will suggest you to get dedicated server not co-location. Otherwise when your hardware got any issue, it will be a big trouble for you.
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Do you know where your visitors from? You should base on your visitors location to choose your Data Centre. If you buy your own dedicated server, who is going to maintain for you? I will suggest you to get dedicated server not co-location. Otherwise when your hardware got any issue, it will be a big trouble for you.
currently most visitors are from Malaysia, and i don't think for my case location is a big deal as for big content like videos and archives i already place them in a 10Mbps dedicated bandwith VPS and the speed is very nice to malaysia.

and it also doesnt make sense to put the server in malaysia as in 4 months i'll be targeting for US and Europe market, so it'll be lot of work to move it there later.

What bother me the most now, is the server that host my PHP and MySQL. It's darn slow (not transfer speed, but in terms of processing).

I don't want an overkill, yet afraid too low in specs will be just as useless.

how good is a quad core Xeon? should i go for one that could be expanded to 4 x dual core or 2 x quad core ?

should i buy, or should i lease?
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I prefer lease service, at least I don’t have worry about the hardware issue, but in the other hand, it will cost you more in your monthly fee. This is totally up to you. Good luck and hope you can be success when you are targeting oversea market.
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Server very2 less problem
Maybe after 3 years, got fan problem, but very rare.
1U u can be expandable enough, put 750Gb x 2, Dual Qoad Xeon, 2GB ECC FB x 2. Good enough.

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You may probably look for 2 server - one as the web server and the other as a MySQL server running SCSI. However, you may want to expect a large bill for this kind of hardware setup.
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Hello,

Looking from your website, I can guess why it is very high traffic.
Your should consider USA server rather than malaysia server.

Thank you,
I agree with fivio. Nowadays, we consider the bandwidth not the location.
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Hello,

We do consider bandwitdh, location and content

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hmm...

i've moved my website to a bigger VPS which gave me 1GB ram and Dual Intel Quad-Core at another company, thinking it'd be a seamless migration shall i need to upgrade later, and that company do provide a one-VPS-one-Server package at same config.

but bleargh... even though site now do load significantly a lot faster but at peak time it sometimes return blank page, SSH return "bash fork : could not allocate memory", WHM/cPanel inaccessible.

how much ram does apache needs per 100 concurrent connection?

how big of RAM does a serious server should have? 2GB? 4GB?

between a Dedicated VPS (1vps/srv) and a Dedicated Server, how big is the difference in performance? is the vps overhead directly proportional to the server load?
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Hello,

Ever try to tweak your mysql and apache setting ?

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Hello,

Ever try to tweak your mysql and apache setting ?

Thank you,
Don't know what setting to tweak... appreciate if you could show me some URL to a site with nice tuts for noobs.

honestly, the traffic locked me out of my server. gotta wait till 4am before it respond to my SSH login request.

I'll try to retrieve the apache compilation config setting later here. It might help if you could give me the command i have to run to do that.
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