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Old 21-11-2004, 09:09 PM
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hosting with multiple domain

I need webhosting that can host/provide multiple domain in one hosting.

i found one : hive.com.my

I need more cause I want to use it on my current project. I need at least 5 webhosting that can host multiple domain in one hosting package. 5 webhosting that has 5 different IP.

Why? cause I want to get away from search engine radar for my current project.

This project will use at least 5 different IP's that will interlink together. So I need different IP so that my site do not get ban by search engine.

Please post your hosting features here.

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Old 21-11-2004, 09:18 PM
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Hi Jawa,
I doubt anyone will reply here with their hosting features as Self-advertisement is not allowed in this forum.

Anyways, you can check out a list of local companies and contact them for more information:
http://www.top-web-hosting-directory.com/index.php?c=20

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Old 21-11-2004, 10:10 PM
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Erm, just confused, 5 different web host or 1 host for 5 domain add-ons? Also curious, what kind of website are you on you're worried to get banned?

5 sets of IP will cost you extra with Hive. Please email/PM for quotes or questions.
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Old 21-11-2004, 11:47 PM
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1 host with 5 add on domain, but I need at least 5 webhosting company that has different IP that provide 5 add on domain.

My current project need at least 5 different IP and need to hide my contact in my whois like Godaddy done..

Why different IP, this is because of SEO (search engine optimization). 5 website with different IP that interlink together and has similar theme.

I give example what I mean:

1st website is about fashion. so I register fashionmall.com. Main website.

2nd website is about men clothing, so I register men-clothing.com

3rd website is about women clothing, so I register women-clothing.com

and so on. like kid clothing, lingerie, ...


All has similar theme.. fashion.

All this site is interlink with each other and their link appear in all site.

If you had all site with same IP and make it interlink together, Google will ban this site cause they assume you try to increase your link popularity. Spamming..

So that's why I need different IP. Interlink this site together will increase my site link popularity without exchange link with other site.

Why I build site like this, read here for guidance. http://www.revengeofthemininet.com

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Old 22-11-2004, 12:14 AM
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I see, I get your point. It should be possible then. Each domain to have it's own name server pointing to it's own IP to the same server.

1 set of IP will cost an extra RM48 per year for my quote.
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Old 22-11-2004, 07:39 AM
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Hi jawa,
I can be wrong, but is there such reason to be banned by Google? I have done some simple SEO readings and so far I haven't came across such information.

In fact, if you have noticed, web hosts especially Exabytes & Emerge do sponsered some projects. If the projects were on the same server, they should use the same IP instead of each site using their own dedicated IP. Now, I assume all the sponsered site has interlinking back to Exabytes/Emerge because it is a sponsered project. If that is the case, why didn't I see either the project or the sponser's site being banned?

Last but not least, I came across an IT site that has quite good PR. They have a few network sites linking each other on the same IP (except for one) and so far no problem.

Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Old 22-11-2004, 10:25 AM
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Hrm yeah, @michealfoo may be right too. But still confuse about all this SEO thingy. Any sites to show us all @michealfoo?

If i were to assign out the IP, it will be
xxx.xxx.xxx.1
xxx.xxx.xxx.2
xxx.xxx.xxx.3
xxx.xxx.xxx.4
xxx.xxx.xxx.5

So it that a problem to google jawa?
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Old 22-11-2004, 06:20 PM
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Hrm yeah, @michealfoo may be right too. But still confuse about all this SEO thingy. Any sites to show us all @michealfoo?
Will post the links if I come across any (can't recall them from my mind now). But anyways, most of the corporate sites have multiple network companies' site hosted on the same server. But still, no problem with SEO.

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If i were to assign out the IP, it will be
xxx.xxx.xxx.1
xxx.xxx.xxx.2
xxx.xxx.xxx.3
xxx.xxx.xxx.4
xxx.xxx.xxx.5

So it that a problem to google jawa?
Shouldn't be any problem. If there is a problem for such allocation, it would mean the whole IP block will be blacklisted and seriously, the datacenter is in real trouble :P

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Old 22-11-2004, 06:28 PM
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If you mean put a link in website like sponsored link without link back is ok.

eg:

let's say I have website hosted with X webhosting company. Than a few month later I register another domain and hosting with X webhosting company again.

This all host with share hosting and their IP is the same, correct me if I'm wrong.

Interlink mean, I put link of first website at second website, and at second website I put link of first website. Exchange link together with same IP address.

Both has same owner, ME.

Google don't like this, because this link is not natural.

Usually webmaster exchange link with another webmaster that has different IP address, if same address but not the same owner.

Google don't like webmaster increase their link popularity and Page Rank with their own website that has same IP address.

That's why I need 5 separate hosting company that can provide 5 add on domain because my project will need 25 domain for next 2 years. I don't need a lot of hosting space, enough if it 100MB and can host 5 domain like hive.com.my provide.

*resources:

http://www.jimworld.com/apps/webmast...forum::google/

http://www.searchenginegenie.com/saf...-in-google.htm


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http://myss.sitesell.com
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Old 22-11-2004, 07:31 PM
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In that case do you really need to buy new IP?

I have many IPs in my lines for my own shared & dedicated for resellers'. Most host which offer resellers with dedicated IP should have a lot of IPs.

Also if what you said is true: My sites links hive.com.my & hivehosting.net with each other. Does that mean i'm booted out? How about ringgithosting.com which I have bought over (now used as redirection to increase traffic). Will it stay long as PR3?
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Filuren,

in order to transfer PR, you have to use 301 redirects...

please read this:

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum3/17597.htm

or search mr google on this matter..

good luck..

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Old 22-11-2004, 10:38 PM
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Thanks for the hint oxfly
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Maybe or maybe not you decide by looking at this:

Hive.com.my redirect to hivehosting.net

hivehosting.net - PR 1/10

Link popularity in :

Google 490

Date register: 2003-09-29

You got 490 link point to your site but only get PR 1/10.

Compare to this site:

www.diabetes-nutritional.com
PR 4/10

link popularity in Google : 14

Date register: 2004/03/16

Google will not pass PR if link with the same IP. It will devalue the link. Sometimes it will not count the link.

I've seen site that get banned forever by Google.

Let's look this site in Google.

www.1st-in-babies.com

Date register: 2002/03/08

Link popularity in Google : 1040

Page inclusion in Google : 0

Why? Banned forever by Google cause cross linking/ interlink with all his site that has same IP.

Last time this guy had 70 websites that has good ranking in Google, but because of cross linking to increase PR for his site, his site got penalized by Google.

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Old 23-11-2004, 08:01 AM
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Hi jawa,
Thanks for the input. It is really useful

Anyways, seems that we are bringing you off topic. Please do feel free to check out the web host directory link I gave you. You should be able to find a host there considering most of the local companies have registered their site with that directory.

Good luck in your SEO project
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Old 23-11-2004, 05:39 PM
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well.. yeah, sounds useful to me thanks for the hints!
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