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Old 22-08-2006, 02:49 AM
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The fastest way to achieve high page rank

Hello all,

I would like to ask for you all the share your experience about the fastest way to achieve page rank.

I'm sorta page rank noob. No matter how hard I tried, the best I could attain is a PR3 :|

What are the fastest way to achieve high page rank? (p/s: don't talk about the fake page rank/bot redirection method).

Several ways that could be possible:

1. Submit to 500 directories.
2. Issue many Press Release
3. Submit many articles to many articles site
4. Join Link Network (linkvault, coop)

What's your take on this?
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Old 22-08-2006, 02:46 PM
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Pay for a inclusion at a high pagerank directory is probably the fastest way...
I've got from PR0 to PR5 in 2 months.

My comments on your suggestion above:
1. Spammy. SEs might consider your site spam as you generate too many link in a short time
2. Could work but gathers more traffic than PR
3. Great long term strategy to build PR
4. No.. No.. No.. Reason as in no. 1.
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Old 24-08-2006, 12:23 AM
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Pay for a inclusion at a high pagerank directory is probably the fastest way...
I've got from PR0 to PR5 in 2 months.

My comments on your suggestion above:
1. Spammy. SEs might consider your site spam as you generate too many link in a short time
2. Could work but gathers more traffic than PR
3. Great long term strategy to build PR
4. No.. No.. No.. Reason as in no. 1.
Thanks for your input, kawan.

What are the high page rank directory that accept paid inclusion you recommend ? And, how many of them did you submit to achieve PR5 in 2 months? (that's quite an achievement, IMHO).
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To be extremely frank with you, I only bought a placement for that particular site of mine at www.site-sift.com

My site is a niche directory and hence featured in vilesilencer's list as well.
I suppose that site-sift + vilesilencer formula was what got me up to a PR5.
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Old 24-08-2006, 09:43 PM
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Amazing and thanks for sharing.

My previous impression of page rank was, the more the merrier.

I thought you need like 1000+ links to reach PR 5. Guess I was wrong :|
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Do a backlink-check on your competitor sites and see where they are linked from. It's not how many links you need but how many similarly-themed and high PR links (PR4 and upwards).

You shouldn't bother too much with PR and Google doesn't want you to. Although toolbar PR is updated every 3 months or so, it's updated frequently in Google's internal data and reflected in search results.
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Old 05-10-2006, 01:40 PM
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Do a backlink-check on your competitor sites and see where they are linked from. It's not how many links you need but how many similarly-themed and high PR links (PR4 and upwards).
The 'similarly-themed' part is a great advice. Search engine optimization has gone more towards 'theme-based' as search engines start categorizing site based on their theme, aka niche.

Thanks.
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IMO..

1. Make sure u have a moderately aged domain (1-2 yr +)
2. Build unique content pages for your site
3. Build up some linkpop first.
4. Buy paid link in PR 6 or 7 site.
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1. Make sure u have a moderately aged domain (1-2 yr +)
My friend just got PR7 and the domain is registered on Feb 2006. Oh and don't ask what's the site URL

I must say, get as many backlink as you can
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IMO..
1. Make sure u have a moderately aged domain (1-2 yr +)
2. Build unique content pages for your site
3. Build up some linkpop first.
4. Buy paid link in PR 6 or 7 site.
I disagree with (1) and (4). I had less-than-1-month old site that went from PR0 to PR5, mostly because of links from my other websites - yeah, links from the same C-class IP being ineffective could be a myth!

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My friend just got PR7 and the domain is registered on Feb 2006. Oh and don't ask what's the site URL
Like I mentioned before, don't get too obsessed with pagerank - it's just a means to an end. What's more important to your friend is:
- is he/she ranked well for the targetted keywords?
- does he/she get better traffic, and hence, earnings now?

Using the example from the site I mentioned above, although it's PR5 (0 on most of the inside pages) it ranks very well for my targetted keywords. Add viral marketing to it, the website received 150,000 unique visitors/month in under 4 months.

To top it off, the website which cost me around RM60 to develop was sold for over RM20k in 3 months. So which figure amazes you now - the PR5, the 150,000/mth or the RM20k?

(make mental note to self: don't be obsessed with PR)
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I disagree with (1) and (4). I had less-than-1-month old site that went from PR0 to PR5, mostly because of links from my other websites - yeah, links from the same C-class IP being ineffective could be a myth!
Wow. Can u confirm that the domain was 1 month old as well as the site? If so, it seems to dispell the aged domain theory which stands tall amongst other SEO observers.

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Like I mentioned before, don't get too obsessed with pagerank - it's just a means to an end. What's more important to your friend is:
- is he/she ranked well for the targetted keywords?
- What do mean by 'ranked well'- is it to appear high in the SERPS or have high page RANK.

- How do you get "ranked well" aside from getting quality links from high PR related sites (assuming you have all the content etc already)


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To top it off, the website which cost me around RM60 to develop was sold for over RM20k in 3 months. So which figure amazes you now - the PR5, the 150,000/mth or the RM20k?
Congrats. How much PPC (& other) revenue did it do on 150,000 uniques/mth


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(make mental note to self: don't be obsessed with PR)
Yeah, let's focus on $$$ instead
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The site was created in early June (1st, I think) and it got PR5 in the following PageRank update - not this September one. Age of domain/website/IBLs play a part in SEO but has very little effect IMO.

Rank well means in SERPs. Ask yourself, why do you want a higher PageRank? To rank higher in search results of course, and that should be your main focus and not the toolbar PR.

Infact, PageRanks are updated more often than the 3-4 months, works on a more detailed scale than PR0-PR10 and are reflected in search results on a more frequent basis - that's why rankings fluctuate every couple of days. I'm writing a short article on this and I'll post here when it's done.

You're right - inbound links are the most important SEO factor because it's something that a webmaster can't manipulate easily. Easy links from free/paid directories, linkdumps and free/paid PR sites maybe discounted in the future since they are SEO favourites. With so many PhDs at their disposal, you think Google doesn't know?

Not much from PPC because there was only one 468x60 Adsense banner and it made between US$12 to US$24/day.

Let's do that.
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Tolkein- totally agree. Are you based in Singapore or Malaysia?
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Old 06-10-2006, 08:43 PM
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A series of informative post, Larry and Penang1.

IMHO, page rank can be overrated. But, let's remember that if you have a high page rank:

1) You can sell links are a much higher price.
2) You can show it 'off' to your friend.
3) I'm not sure about this, but I heard the on-site advertising payout (adsense) is better than lower page rank.

So page rank still matters, but agreeing with Larry and others here, not to put too much emphasize on it.
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my website got PR 4/10 after 2 month I develop it. I change it everytime from wordpress -> joomla -> joomla+smf now latest, yesterday joomla+vb. My adsense only $4 per month, lol..so I dont think adsense got anything to do with PR. And yeah, the only directory I submitted it was top100 blog, malaysiantop blog and 1 more I didnt remember, but removed it coz it lag my website.

for conclusion, I dont care much about PR as long as when I run firefox, type resakse on the address bar..it will automatically open my website without need to type my long url heheh

p/s : I just try SEO thing on my website but I got 4/10 before I SEO'ed it.

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