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Old 04-07-2007, 11:25 PM
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Internet Explorer 8 is coming

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post...xplorer-8.html
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Microsoft drops hints about Internet Explorer 8
By Jeremy Reimer | Published: May 02, 2007 - 11:54AM CT

At the Mix'07 conference in Las Vegas—Microsoft's annual event for web designers and developers—the spotlight has largely been on Microsoft's Silverlight platform, formerly known as Windows Presentation Foundation/Everywhere. Silverlight is a set of tools for developing rich, Flash-like web applications. Less talk has focused around the web browser that will provide the primary user interface for all this new technology. On the Internet Explorer blog, Chris Wilson hinted at some of the things that might be coming in IE 8, while declining to give specific details.
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While details may be lacking, the structure of the conferences planned for Mix'07 gives a few hints. Improvements in RSS, CSS, and AJAX support are all being given high priority. It is also widely speculated that IE 8 will include support for microformats, small tags embedded in HTML code that can be interpreted in various ways by software, such as calendar events or contact information. Microformat support is scheduled for Firefox 3, so IE 8 will have to include them in order to keep up. The new version may also include more options for user interface customization, as that was one of the biggest criticisms of IE 7, and one which the developers often blamed on lack of time.

The fact that there will be an IE 8 at all is a testament to the fact that the web browser market has become competitive again. When IE 6 finally vanquished Netscape, the team that created Microsoft's browser was largely thrown to the winds, and development slowed to a crawl. It took Firefox gaining a ten percent market share to cause Microsoft to respond with IE 7.

Despite continued criticism over the slow development of IE 7, it is clear that Microsoft isn't ignoring the browser any more. A timeline for the release of IE 8 isn't available yet, but Microsoft is hinting that there will be at least another year of development, which would make it approximately 18 months after the release of IE 7. Microsoft isn't currently planning any interim releases, such as 7.1 or 7.5, but the browser does continue to be updated with bugfixes and security patches through Windows Update.
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Microsoft hints at general plan for IE 8
Internet Explorer 8, due within the next 18 months, will keep focus on security, ease of use and include Web development improvements.
By Martin LaMonica
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Published: May 3, 2007, 3:21 PM PDT

Microsoft will continue to prioritize security and ease of use in the forthcoming Internet Explorer 8 and will seek to improve Web development with current standards compatibility, according to the company.

At Microsoft's Mix '07 conference in Las Vegas this week, IE platform architect Chris Wilson recapped Microsoft's development priorities in the making of Internet Explorer (IE) 7 and outlined some of its goals for the next version of its browser.

Wilson said Microsoft intends to create a follow-on version, IE 8, within two years of IE 7's release, which came out in October.

The priorities Microsoft set for IE 7, Wilson said, are the same for IE 8: strong security, ease of use and Web development improvements.

"It's clear we have a lot to do with the Web developer platform," he said addressing an audience of mostly Web developers at Mix.

Specifically, he said Microsoft will invest more in layout and adhering to the Cascading Style Sheets (CSS) 2.1 specifications. He also said Microsoft wants to make its browser object model more interoperable "to make it easier to work with other browsers and allow more flexible programming patterns."

In addition, he said the Ajax Web programming style needs more client-side application programming interfaces to allow developers to create more powerful applications.

"There's work in the standardization bodies to do local storage and get better security models," Wilson said, adding that Microsoft is working with the W3C on standardizing HTML version 5 and XHTML version 1 and 1.1.
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He said adherence to standards is increasingly important to Web site developers but Microsoft is in a "challenging" position as it introduces more standards compliance.

Because previous versions of Internet Explorer strayed from standards, new versions of Internet Explorer, such as IE 7, have caused some Web sites to not work for end users, he said.

"Web development compatibility is really crucial for building applications and...for us to deploy browsers (but) it has to be an evolutionary step," he said, noting that half a billion people use some version of Internet Explorer. "If we say, 'Here is your new browser--it's standards compatible,' we actually disrupt the existing ecosystem and it doesn't actually make it better for anyone.
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October 26th, 2006
IE8 already, more Vista delays, big holiday gadget budgets, WinTel/AppTel to usurp living rooms, and Zillow under the tree?

IE8 already? Internet Explorer 7 is hardly out the door (in fact, Secunia has already found a second vulnerability in the newly-released browser) and Microsoft is already dropping hints about IE8, also known as IE Next, according to Mary Jo Foley.With IE 7 finally out the door, Microsoft has begun sharing some hints about IE 8.0, also known as IE Next. Chris Wilson, the newly minted platform architect for IE, addressed the Ajax Experience crowd this week and presented some of his thinking on what matters for the Web, going forward.

Microsoft also has its sites set on more near term stuff. For example, getting Vista out the door. Apparently, there's a new flaw in the release candidate of Vista that crashes the operating system so badly that it has to be reinstalled. ComputerWorld is reporting that the bug has caused Microsoft to delay Vista's release to manufacturing (RTM) until November 8. The continued delays have caused Microsoft to issue upgrade coupons to holiday system buyers. But regarding those coupons, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes says "Microsoft has taken what should be relatively easy and made it far too complicated by handing too much control over to the PC vendors (a list which includes Acer, Dell, Fujitsu, Hewlett-Packard, Lenovo, Sony, Toshiba …)."

With the holiday season already here, Ed Bott asks "Who’s got the best seat in the digital living room? Bott says (and I agree) that a lot of hardware and software companies, including Microsoft, are betting big bucks that they can take over the living room and be your hub for digital media. Just yesterday, I was having this discussion with someone else.

The three companies most focused on this goal — because it probably represents the hottest growth area for them — are Microsoft, Apple, and their primary hardware backer Intel. All three are deadset on moving in on the household names that have traditionally "owned" the home entertainment center. What's their secret weapon? Their proprietary digital rights management technologies. As people acquire more of their content (video and audio) from sources like the iTunes Music Store (iTMS) that only serve up copy-protected versions of that content, the merchants who run those sources (like Apple and Microsoft) get to decide where that content will work, and where it won't. It's no coincidence that Apple's forthcoming iTV can playback iTMS-purchased content while a Motorola set-top box (or any of the other gear in your home entertainment center) can't. My problem? Computing gear has never been very good at hardcore audiophile stuff like amplification and it probably never will (or your computer will wiegh about 150 pounds).

Speaking of the holidays, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes points out that we'll be parting with about $21 billion over the next few months and that the average consumer will drop $195 on consumer electronics alone. Of course, you and I not average. What’s on your holiday wish list? I want a pair of bluetooth enabled Oakley's with interchangeable Rx lenses. How does what you want compare with what other people are most likely to buy?

Another question: Where will you be doing most of your buying? Within the next few weeks, I'm relatively certain the boxes from Amazon (the ones I have to cut down to size for recycling) are going to start showing up. That's where my wife does most of her holiday shopping. But Donna Bogatin points out that prying eyes are trying to unlock the secrets of successful outfits like Amazon. She says the commerce giant wants to stop Google's mission to snare direct competitors into revealing confidential, proprietary details of competitive operations to the "do no evil" Google.

Meanwhile, Russell Shaw thinks that Zillow (yes, the entire company) is going to end up under someone's Christmas tree on relatively short order. Russell notes that there are several likely suitors of the red-hot real-estate information site and points out which of them would make for a perfect marriage. Can you guess (Hint: It's not eBay or Amazon.)
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Old 04-07-2007, 11:29 PM
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Your guide to Microsoft's next browser
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http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives...ox_3_plans.php
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Firefox 3 Plans and IE8 Speculation - Browsers Heading Apart Again
Written by Richard MacManus / January 11, 2007

Mozilla has published a wiki page detailing its plans for the next version of Firefox, codenamed "Gran Paradiso". The target release date is sometime in the third quarter this year and it hopes to release a major version of Firefox every year. While Firefox is still aiming for a broad mainstream audience, Mozilla recognizes that its strengths for normal users are its extensions and customization. It notes on the wiki that "Microsoft will continue to establish deeper ties from IE7/Vista to live.com & MSN" and even that other "web service providers" may introduce their own browsers (Yahoo? Amazon?). So Firefox is aiming to be the best general Web browser - e.g. it wants to be faster for AJAX apps.

Among the mandatory requirements listed for FF3 are improving the add-on experience, providing "an extensible bookmarks back-end platform", adding more support for web services "to act as content handlers" - all of which show that Firefox wants to be an independent information broker rather than a simple HTML renderer in its next version. Microformats will be a key part of this too - and this is currently listed as a "highly desirable" feature for FF3. Also good to see extensible identity management listed there. All of this encourages best-of-breed apps to flourish, which is an excellent direction for Mozilla to take with Firefox. It probably also plays into Google's hands, as they have a number of best of breed web apps - and are acquiring them at a great rate too (YouTube, JotSpot, Writely, etc).

Also in the works is Microsoft's IE8. According to ActiveWin.com, a Microsoft official at CES told them that work has already begun for IE 8 and it may be released as a final product "within 18-24 months". IE8 will apparently "compete even more directly with Firefox". Looking ahead, it's obvious that IE will continue to hook into the advanced functionality that Vista offers.

So if anything, I'd hazard a guess and say that IE8 will head back into ProprietaryLand - leaving Firefox to become more of a vehicle for independent web services, particularly those from Google. While IE7 and Firefox 2 were more alike than different (feature-wise they're practically identical!), with IE8 and FF3 we will likely see the two biggest browsers head off into different directions.
http://www.css3.info/ie7-browser-share-and-ie8-hints/
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IE7 browser share and IE8 hints
May 3rd, 2007 by Peter Gasston

Apologies to all for the delay between posts, the site authors are busy with jobs, family and holidays. We’ll have some new content very shortly. In the meantime, here’s a quick browser update.

Based on my own statistics - and these are not, of course, meant to be in any way representative - April saw a pretty decent leap for IE7; its share of the market rose to 21.1%, up from 18.6% the month before. Even more encouraging, IE6 fell to 46.5% after its shock rise to 50.6% last month.

Firefox’s share continues on a slow decline since I began my figures; from a high of 16.9% in November, it falls to 14.8% in the latest figures.

Microsoft were noticeably guarded with details of changes in future versions of IE at their recent MIX event, although hints were dropped that we’d see improvements to CSS, RSS, and AJAX, and that Microformats could be on their way.

In an effort to tie this post to the theme of this blog, let me ask a question: what three CSS3 features would you most like to see in IE8?

Update: Maybe I should reword the question: With the presumption that all outstanding CSS2 bugs are removed, and all remaining CSS2 declarations implemented, what CSS3 features would you most like to see in IE8?
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IE 8: Opt-in for standards compliance

Category: IEView the technorati tag: IE, ArticlesView the technorati tag: Articles

We have talked about the big debate on backwards compatibility vs. fixing things.

Chris Wilson chatted to a large crowd at MIX about the future of IE, in which he talked a little about IE 8:

However, Wilson did tell attendees that Microsoft is planning to require Web site authors to “opt-in” to standards mode when developing IE 8.0 sites.

“Five years ago, no one in the top 200 Web sites was using standards,” Wilson said. “Today it is half of the top 200 Web pages.”

Wilson acknowledged that he wasn’t sure exactly what form this kind of opt-in would take. But asking authors to opt in will “give us freedom to do some great things,” he said. By giving Microsoft permission to make IE 8.0 more standards-complaint, authors will take responsibility for breaking pages.

Wilson said to expect Microsoft to be investing across layout, object model and Ajax development fronts in IE 8.0. Specificially, Wilson said Microsoft is investing in making IE 8.0 more compliant with CSS 2.1 layout standards. Microsoft also is working to make the IE 8.0 object model more interoperable with that used by other browsers, and is looking to provide more client-side application programming interfaces (APIs) to support local storage for mash-ups, Wilson said.

Microsoft is planning to make tweaks to IE that will allow developers to more easily add extensions to its browser, Wilson said. He said Microsoft acknowledged that extensions are powerful but potentially “scary.”

Some are asking about DOCTYPE switching.
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I still haven't really use IE7.. and now IE8 ............. looks like MS is preparing for another round of browser war haha
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wish the 8th version gonna be proper html / css with w3c standard compliment lah.. if not.. ie still sucks..
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IE 8 - hopefully better CSS/XHTML compliance

newer versions are never stopped.

After IE 8, guess that IE 8.x+ or IE 9 will be next version.
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hopefully IE can improve their "seach" function. I prefer the FireFox search funtion which appear at the status bar instead of a pop up box at IE7.
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hopefully IE can improve their "seach" function. I prefer the FireFox search funtion which appear at the status bar instead of a pop up box at IE7.
no worry... ms. sucks are good in copying from others ppl function... like vista its just copied interface from Mac Os and linux address randomization features... sure it will copy from firefox as well....

if ie8 can be detached/uninstall itself from the OS then i will say its a good product.... else... its still lack of ingenuity and sucks like ie7
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