actually i am wondering, how many people here actually use css? and how many people using table?

it's actually been quite a while since i joined this forum, and i notice most of the website review here are in table format, despite those which are using wordpress/joomla/drupal and other cms.

first to say this, i m a full css since beginning of this year :P

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i use both but mainly table...

for small normal static non template driven website, i use <table> more than css <div> coz the code look clean and easy to maintain. I hate to refer to 2 separate file (.css & .html) just to make a minor changes.

for dynamic and template driven website... css is a must.

i mostly use css for dynamic menu, standard layout font properties and background and links colors...

i think it doesn't matter which one to use coz as long as the website look pretty and clean the visitor don't mind at all... all that the visitor interested is the content of the site. They don't bother at all on what type of programming language used...

if css have better advantages in SEO... then i will go full in CSS...

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I started website design with tables, but I flick the switch since 2 years ago. It is frustrating at first, just trying to get 2 or 3 column works cross browser. But after a while, I feel that tableless coding is definitely easier and the codes is cleaner. Heck, the website is readable although you disabled the CSS. This means your site will me mobile friendly

And what's even better is that, you can even share the same codes across different websites. Just make a little changes to your HTML (if your framework is good enough, there's no need HTML changes at all!) and CSS, and there you go, with a new website design. A tableless design is better in the sense that you can create a framework that you can keep on re-use and it makes your designing process easier and faster.

In a table design, it's not easy to create makeover. This means the you have to do the coding all over again when you've accepted a new project. For me, it is quite a waste of time. And table coding isn't easy. Just thinking about the TDs and TRs is making me sick :P

Come on... switch to tableless design!

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Table? what was that?

Well.. nowaday, div is a standard way of coding. I think since wordpress gain better in SEO.. realizing css is king.

Tweaking on H1 H2 H3 just nice.. and you can figure out on css.. which part of your web to load first!

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I started coding with only html, no css involve at all and it is table all the way.
I just started using div about a year ago and till now, table has become really rare to me

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I mostly build backend application so I prefer table for my dynamic outputs somehow layers also very nice for some contents

you got the point there and i think you are right. With lesser html code on the file, i guess the crawler can work more efficiently in spidering just the content.

So i will start using full CSS now....

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Interesting survey you are conducting. I prefer CSS. Easy to maintain and you can chage your design or layout overnight!

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When I first started my website designer job 2 years ago, I first used tables, but after my friend's persistence of using CSS, I tried my hand in it as well.

Needless to say, I was instantly hooked! To me, I guess it's because the coding is much cleaner and easier to maintain than hunting around for that particular <td> or <tr>.

Just my two cents

css no doubt will gain better result in SEO wise.

i am a fulltime csser now as well, SEO advantage, cleaner coding, easier to maintain, etc u just name it.

however, have to be careful in doin the css layouting, not to use any complicated cheat or bugfix or any trick in it, as the main motto of css is easy maintaining, if you put in all sort of weird and complicated codes in it, u will really have a very hard time in the future when u refer it back

last say, everytime i disable the css and enable back the css of the finish layouted website, a hard to describe sensation there will flow inside u when seeing it :P

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is disable-ing the css is an issue?
I guess nobody would disable css right?

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i don't think so there's a option in firefox and ie to disable the css...
anyway... css is just a design scripts like html and won't cause any malicous act.. so i don't think so there a need for the browser develop to add in disabling option for it...

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yup, is not an issue for disabling css. But if you are very concern on SEO and how the crawler would read your site, then it would be better to have the css disable and that's how and what the crawler read it.

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i see ur point
but I guess those who are developing site with css should already know how the content flow when they put the css in
its only from left to right or the other way and certainly top to bottom

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yup. they should already know. However is the matter of using correctly on the <H1> - <H6> tag in a correct way still :P

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