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Old 29-03-2003, 03:29 PM
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e-learning

ada sesiapa disini yg berpengalaman dalam membangunkan aplikasi e-learning?...

saya memerlukan khidmat nasihat.. x kira la from backend or front end... apa yg perlu diutamakan.. apa yg perlu diambilkira... n so on....

ok.. serba sedikit ttg e-learning yg nak dibangunkan

programming language : perl..(apa lagi)
database : mySQL (ada idea lain?)
platform : WINDOWS2000/NT
browser : Internet explorer (but still can run under netscape n so on.. optional....)

user: 3 level...
student, letcurer, admin

scope: include e-book n online exam/test. (question bank)

ok... hope anyone can giv me some advice 2 develop this thing...

thanxs...
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Old 29-03-2003, 09:46 PM
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Hello,

From a back-end point of view, it would maily depend on how much you have to spend and how much load this application is to accept.

First of all, you should decide on the OS platform. There's windows, and there's Linux. This is your decision, but before you make this decision, you should consider other factors, such as database and programming language.

If you are going to write your app in Perl and have a mySQL database, it would be better running Linux than Windows plus it would be cheaper.

Database
mySQL is fast, however if it is handling a lot of data transactions, mySQL is not as efficient as the bigger, more powerful databases such as Oracle or MSSQL. An open source alternative is PostgreSQL. PostgreSQL is more efficient than MySQL, however, it is NOT as fast as MySQL. Postgre is also open source, so it's free. If you are thinking of implementing Oracle 9i, this will set you back more than US$19,000 for licensing so it would be unrealistic to straight away have an Oracle DB.

If your application is going to be used by less than 1000 people at any one time, a MySQL DB should be sufficient.

Programming Language
Perl works fine on both Linux and Windows systems, however for an application of this size that requires a lot of maintanence from time-to-time, it would be wiser to program in a langauges that is easier to program in such as PHP or ASP, to name a few. Those languages would be good if you are making a fully web-based app. If you are going to have stand-alone apps with the web-app, you might want to look into Java, JSP and EJB (J2SE & J2EE).

eLearning
As an eLearning concept, if you are going to provide eBooks and tests online, the system is technically feasible and shouldn't be to hard to build. However, if you decide to go further, I have thought about eLearning from a technical aspect, and in my opinion a 'Real' eLearning system would be to complex to build. If you were to create an eLearning system, it would require a very complex expert system and artificial intelligence (AI). The furthest that we can go, which is affordable is Fuzzy Logic, and I don't think fuzzy logic would be sufficient for 'Real' eLearning.

Good luck!
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thanxs 4 ur advise, it's very useful.

y i use windows?... terpaksa ikut spec yg dikuarkan oleh client. but i hope, i can suggest linux to them.

y i use mySQL?... since i using WINDOWS for my platform, there is nothing free xcept mySQL. oracle n MSSQL require licensing. PostgreSQL can't run on windows.. m i rite?..

y i use perl?... this is the only web programming language that i know.. i already try php.. but it's 2 compicated compare to perl for me n perl can do a lot of thing that php can't do. (but, ada gak yg perl x leh buat ... hehehehehee ) asp??... not interested ...


heheheheheee... e-learning.. mmg pun.. kalau nak cover all, mmg x terlarat. banyak bende nak di pikirkan. belum masuk user kerenah, birokrasi, n many more... hope 4 now i'll cover the ebook n online exam. exam pun byk masalah gak. nak control dia nyer bussiness rule satu hal. refer to cisco online test.

anyway... thanxs for ur advise sufyan.. thanxs a lot
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This greatly depends on the scope of your application; how far/complex do you want to go. It may be easy and fast to build if you dont plan to go far, but it could be very complex if you are talking about a complete and flexible application.

For example, you can also provide the ability to author courses online. With this you can introduce another user level: the Authors. He will author courses online. Courses can be broken into Departments, Courses, Modules, Chapters, Pages, Elements, ... Also, to enrich the course, you can allow different types of multimedia elements within a page such as flash, images, quick time movies, ....

just some thoughts...
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thanxs again.. i need more advise from u all..

the authors, another great idea... thanxs....

*** anyone know about blackboard? AICC?
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Saya dah bangunkan satu laman web bernama: MariBelajar.com

Applikasi ini guna PHP/MySQL.

http://www.maribelajar.com
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mbek: my company is doing e-learning web application which is SCORM conform. JSP and MySQL is our choice.

If you are looking for FREE e-learning portal script but do not mind it conform to standard or not, Moodle[ http://moodle.org/ ] is a good choice. It is written using PHP.
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yup... tapi moodle ini pun ada org jual utk kepentingan sendiri... dpt status msc lagi tu...
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hmmm... he modified the code and release new version? *shit*
nanti I also can get MSC status lah~
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haah ari tu ade dtg promote kat company aku
aku tgk jerk... bukak login je dah kenai... tgk admin page pun aku kenai... hak hak babeng la itu compeny dpt MSC status lagi...

dia nak jual RM300K tuu
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sigh... The company should be sued!
mari, we open a MSC status company also
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