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Old 17-08-2001, 09:45 AM
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What is the different??

What is the differrent between ASP and CF?Which is the easiest one?
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Old 17-08-2001, 10:00 AM
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Difference? A lot...
1. ColdFusion is from Macromedia+Allaire; ASP is from Microsoft
2. ColdFusion is tag based; ASP is script based
3. ColdFusion is platform independent; ASP is not that independent (runs only on NT/2000, or ChiliASP)
4. ColdFusion is not free; ASP is "kind of" free since it comes with NT/2000
5. Development in ColdFusion takes half of that of ASP

ColdFusion is the easiest! (IMHO) Easiness in decending order:
1. ColdFusion
2. ASP
3. PHP
4. JSP
5. Perl
6. ???

Although CF cost more initially (because you have to buy the software), but in the long term you gain more because your development time is very much less.
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Old 25-03-2002, 02:28 PM
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I use Cold Fusion here and I've been intending to learn Active Server, but can find no real reason as Cold Fusion seems to do everything. It is easy to use, after learning the initial syntax, fast and works with any database via ODBC. I'm by no means an expert and have no difficulty using it.
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Old 26-03-2002, 11:31 PM
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Mzana, that's why I always say ColdFusion is the easiest and fastest to code in... it is as simple as html...
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Old 27-03-2002, 04:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by kpyew
Mzana, that's why I always say ColdFusion is the easiest and fastest to code in... it is as simple as html...
Thats right kpyew hehe... Its really nice, really enjoy using ColdFusion.

UnRegisteredMan, i've done a simple research regarding to this topic. For further information on comparison between asp and coldfusion, please visit :

http://www.cfm-resources.com/asp_vs_cf.cfm and http://www.teratech.com/teratech/custom/asp.cfm

Pie chart below shows popularity among web programming language.

Source : http://php.weblogs.com/popularity

OK, that's all for now...
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ermm.. i do not agree if u said that coldfusion can do everthing ... until now .. what i can said that perl is the most powerful tools ..

the easiest doesn't mean the fastest in connection speed .. or the easiest to maintain .. or the most affordable tools ..

right now i'm using coldfusion but still i need shell scripting in certain part or perl in certain part or i'm fully hate cf then prefer to work with php

this is just my personal poit of view ..

and this is i show u the between coldfusion and php

Platform Support:
CF has a relatively limited platform selection. Windows, Solaris, Linux or
HP/UX. (Note, initial feedback shows that the Linux version may outperform
the Windows version by as much as 150%, woo hoo!)
PHP, if you can compile it, it will run.

Language:
CF is built for display code. It's scripting language is primitive and does
not support standard operator syntax or user-defined functions. But, it's
really fast and easy for display pages and database interaction.
PHP is built to write applications. The language is strong and very
flexible. Not as easy for the easy stuff, but much easier for the hard
stuff.

Database Support:
CF abstracts database connections, making them simple to use, and very easy
to change DB platform with no code changes. (With CF I can easily develop on
one database, and deploy on another.) Native DB support is only available in
the Enterprise product, and limited to just a few large products. Primary DB
support is through ODBC, which is fine with Windows, but is a PITA with
other platforms.
PHP has extremely strong native DB support. Different DBs have different
command syntax, making mid-stream database changes painful. A bit more
complex to retrieve results.

File-System Support:
CF has adequate file support, but is quirky and not feature-rich.
PHP has comprehensive file system support.

Regular Expressions:
CF has a basic RegEx capability.
PHP is on par with PERL for Regex.

Error-handling:
CF has good try/catch functionality, making formal error handling possible.
PHP has no formal error handling. (This can REALLY bite! Throwing error
messages to the browser is not acceptable behaviour.) What little
error-handling exists is inconsistent, and many errors cannot be trapped in
code at all.

Search Capability:
CF is bundled with Verity, a *very* capable and feature-rich "fuzzy" search
engine for both file searches and database content searches. I really miss
this when working with PHP.
PHP has no search capability.

Date-Handling:
CF will recognize just about any date format and convert on-the-fly with all
date functions.
PHP strtotime() can convert a couple of standard date formats (But is
undocumented). Dates must be converted to timestamp format for nearly all
functions.

Summary:

CF:
Platforms: Adequate
Language: Primitive, but passable
Database: Great syntax and abstraction
File handling: Adequate
RegEx: Adequate
Error Handling: Good
Search: Outstanding
Date-Handling: Nearly idiot-proof
Cost: $$$ to $$$$$$$$

PHP:
Platforms: Where do you want to run today?
Language: Feature-rich and flexible
Database: Great native support, bloated syntax
File handling: Comprehensive
RegEx: Outstanding
Error Handling: Poor
Search: Non-Existent
Date-Handling: Primitive
Cost: null
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Old 29-03-2002, 10:32 PM
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Nengok ler growth PHP tuh, 5000%, tak lama lagih abis ler ASP
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Old 30-03-2002, 10:52 AM
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Hehehe.. I'm also using PHP. But for me lah kan, I'm prefer ColdFusion. May be i'm more familiar with CF cause of my company also use CF. Thanks for the additional info on differences between PHP and CF.

Gerg, where you take that info? Let me guess
http://php.weblogs.com/php_vs_cold_fusion isn't it?
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yupe.. that rite .. that from php weblog..

up to you .. either php or coldfusion .. by the way mzana .. dun u mind to tell me ur company name?
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Well..... me myself prefered ASP coz it does anything i wanted from users online to shopping cart even punch card machine that it will automatically calculate all those hours and ot by itself .......... so, asp the true reason that asp are still the best scripts among all others scripts..........:P
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