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Old 14-03-2003, 12:57 PM
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http://www.bahrulmazi.com << Travel
http://www.modjo.org << #Scooters Web Forum
http://www.phixelgrafix.com << =)
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<option value="0" style="background: #9CC8FE" selected>*SELECT-LINKS</option>
<option value="http://www.gengturbo.org/" style="background: #FF0000">GENGTURBO</option>
<option value="http://www.phixelgrafix.com/" target="new" style="background: #C6D607">PHIXELGRAFIX</option>
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Old 14-03-2003, 01:48 PM
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1. I went to Bahrulmazi.com and my browser was completely confused by the code on your website. It will display on IE because IE is a very forgiving browser and will generate all sorts of unvalidated code quite happily. On checking, the code actually has been cut and paste so many times that it actually has TWO html tags, TWO head tags and TWO body tags. One of them will have to go. This is in addition to various other problems with the code which includes empty cells filled with nothing but font tags and div class tags and no content. A lot of house-keeping is necessary for this website.

2. Can't say much about Modjo.org since it is strictly a phpbb website and phpbb code is pre-generated. But one thing about phpbb is that it cannot be validated using the W3c validator. It does not produce a meta http content tag. Try it at http://validator.w3.org/

3. In phixelgrafix.com, I count FOUR empty rows in the table. You could have saved yourself the empty rows and slimmed down your code by specifying a height for the TD cell containting the image like height=440. The image would then automatically position itself in the middle of it. You also need a mouseover for the email address. The unintiated visitor would have no way of knowing that it is actually a link. And image map just won't do.

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Old 14-03-2003, 05:00 PM
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Thank you for your comment, i will try to change the code...
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<option value="http://www.gengturbo.org/" style="background: #FF0000">GENGTURBO</option>
<option value="http://www.phixelgrafix.com/" target="new" style="background: #C6D607">PHIXELGRAFIX</option>
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Old 17-03-2003, 08:38 AM
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helop/.... cool nice webbies... for tim's info.. the few tags that have been found are mainly due to webpage developing software.. example.. if u are using FrontPage... there are lots of unnecessary tags that would be 'loitering' on the page.. so mainly if the user is using a webpage developing software, there will be 'extra' tags. I dunno whether Ben-davis is using one.. so.. no need to use anything to check on the tags.. it wouldn't make any sense if there are any extra tags... won't lag ur system.. right? IF dalam BM.. terlalu remeh mende tu

Ciawwzz.. and good luck to ben..
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helop/.... cool nice webbies... for tim's info.. the few tags that have been found are mainly due to webpage developing software.. example.. if u are using FrontPage... there are lots of unnecessary tags that would be 'loitering' on the page.. so mainly if the user is using a webpage developing software, there will be 'extra' tags. I dunno whether Ben-davis is using one.. so.. no need to use anything to check on the tags.. it wouldn't make any sense if there are any extra tags... won't lag ur system.. right? IF dalam BM.. terlalu remeh mende tu
AC,

Frontpage, Dreamweaver, Fireworks -- all create unvalidatable code. They're often faster to create websites because they use a WYSIWYG interface which is appropriate for visually-inclined designers, but they're the lazy way of creating websites. And yes, it does lag the system.

Let's do the maths.

If you have a look at a website like Yahoo which generates say, 100 million hits per day, you'll notice that about 15% of the code could have been eliminated because they don't use CSS well and they have Dreamweaver-style extra coding. Each home page of Yahoo is about 100kb in size. Yahoo's server has to work 15% harder sending the extra unnecessary code. It amounts to 150mb.

And if you think that Yahoo's server is sending files direct to your computer and is the only one working so hard, guess again! If you do a ping, you'll notice that between NTT/Verio's system in Cyberjaya and Yahoo's server in California, there are 15-20 different servers. At best, that's 5gb worth of wasted work.

Since Yahoo isn't the only website in the world to have extraneous code. So does Ebay, so does Amazon, so do all your websites.

Now: multiply that 5gb by the number of all the websites in the world. You tell me if that is not slowing down the internet and driving costs higher than it should be.

This is the same reason why we hate spam. Spam eats up resources just like bad code. You're not as irritating as a spammer, but you're still eating up resources -- just like them.

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nice websites! phixelgraphics actually interests me more than the other websites, although its not completed....

what software was used for that "coming soon" image at phixelgraphics to make the 3D effects, I would be interested to know...

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Old 17-03-2003, 03:58 PM
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MENJ... bola 3d tu guna 3d studio max je... pastu mapping, edjas raytrace... jadi le... =) ... satu lagi, bahrulmazi tu php generated, jadi boleh jadi ada tag yang terlebih....
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<option value="0" style="background: #9CC8FE" selected>*SELECT-LINKS</option>
<option value="http://www.gengturbo.org/" style="background: #FF0000">GENGTURBO</option>
<option value="http://www.phixelgrafix.com/" target="new" style="background: #C6D607">PHIXELGRAFIX</option>
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ok.. if u think its a lag.. that's up to u.. now u are viewing a page that does not produce any search or heavy server download or anything.. so if u want to do the website with pure hard coding.. suit urself.. by the way..the reason dreamweaver, or frontpage are ccreated to help easing out the creation of webpage... so if u think ur comments suits for them.. (The people whom create for pleasure or entertainment)... and if u just use a website to check it without u urself checking it.. well I should say.. don't be too proud..it shows that u are the lazy person coz u don't check it by urself by reading the codes itself.... well.. if u say people using dreamweaver or any other software is lazy.. try considering urself using the website to check the html... aren't u also lazy? hmmm... cakap kat cermin yer? hehehe

anyway...
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p/s: hate lamerz who act like powerful but actual lame itself with its own words...
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It wasn't a personal attack, Abgcool.

My point was that bad code, unchecked code, means wasted resources. Surely, you'd agree with that?
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now now children behave
Actually geekrawk, this is what an open forum is all about.. Not everyone would have the same opinion about a certain subject, in this case, html coding. I'm sure there are a lot of web developers are on this board and I believe this would be usefull information for them.
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Old 24-03-2003, 11:12 AM
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erk.... gado la plak.... timyang, thanks for the code checking... but my objective is the layout...
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<option value="0" style="background: #9CC8FE" selected>*SELECT-LINKS</option>
<option value="http://www.gengturbo.org/" style="background: #FF0000">GENGTURBO</option>
<option value="http://www.phixelgrafix.com/" target="new" style="background: #C6D607">PHIXELGRAFIX</option>
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Then this is obviously the wrong forum for that kind of thing. Try the design section.
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ehhehee.. jgn gadoČ! bawak bertenang.. apaČ pun website tu mmg cun..
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