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Old 07-07-2003, 02:35 PM
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Cool site review and research

OK!.
Saya nak research dulu sebelum saya review.

1. Review yang macammana anda suka?
2. Komen2 yang macammana anda harapkan?
3. Adakah komen saya selama ini dapat membantu anda?
4. Bagaimanakah untuk saya mengomen dengan lebik baik?
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Old 07-07-2003, 02:59 PM
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Apa yang saya mahu dari Review?

1) Review haruslah secara keseluruhan... jgnlah utk design atau content sahaja... kalau boleh komen kan coding technique skali...
worth a lot...
2) Sebarang komen boleh diterima... open-minded la skit, jgn kena kritik terus melenting!
3) MEMANG membantu... esp kpd beginner, from my opinion lah!
4) Komen yg baik perlu ada 2 ciri utama iaitu ADIL (jgn pilih kasih atau x kritik sbb kesian) & TEPAT (disokong dgn hujah / fakta yg sahih)...
yg lain2 bole tambah sendiri...
btw, apa yg nak di'review'? Is there a catch (nak serang sesapa)?
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Old 08-07-2003, 05:44 PM
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serang web ko ardiles.
mana web ko? thehehe
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Old 08-07-2003, 05:51 PM
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tgh bikin... susah la nak bahagi masa... dgn study lagi... club lagi... hal students lagi... dahla aku ni travel all the way Kamunting-Ipoh nak ke kelas... mlm jelah tinggal... tupun kalau x bz dek assignment...

nantilah, bila siap... aku suruh reramai kritik... lagipun MHR baru offer best punya hosting... tgh pikir la ni!

mana org lain punya opinion? ingat ini sembang dlm kelambu ape?
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Old 08-07-2003, 05:54 PM
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ek eleh..
alasn tuh semua..
aku takmo dengar alasan tauu..
cepat! nak serang ko nih
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Old 24-07-2003, 05:45 PM
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Tips on leaving a good, helpful critique:

A.) Don't demand changes, suggest them.

IE, don't say, "The position that hand is in is all wrong. It should be raised higher over his head." Suggest that perhaps the hand would look better if it were raised a bit higher over the head. The same goes for color - don't say "your color choices suck, that area should be green, not blue". Suggest that, in your opinion, the blue areas would look better if they were a shade of green instead.

B.) Explain yourself.

Saying "that face looks weird" isn't really as helpful as you think. Explain what it is about the face that you think looks weird, because leaving such a general statement just ends up confusing the artist, especially if they didn't notice that anything was wrong with the area in question to start with.

So instead of saying "that face looks weird", consider saying something along the lines of "the face looks a little wrong, I think it's because the eyes are a little too far apart, and the nose is a little bit crooked". Yes, it takes ten seconds more and a little bit of thought on your part, but if you're going to critique, you want it to be helpful, don't you?

C.) Don't suggest radical changes in subject matter.

Unless the piece is unfinished, when you're looking at a 20+ hour, finished-for-the-most-part piece, don't suggest that the artist should take the piece in an entirely different direction, because they can't without starting all over again. (IE, if it's a picture of, say, an elephant wearing a tutu, suggesting that the artist should make the elephant into a horse isn't going to help : p). If you're making a suggestion for the artist's next piece, make that clear (IE, "next time, it'd be cool to see this as a horse wearing a tutu").

D.) Take the artist's style into consideration.

Not everyone is going for correct proportions and hyper-realism. So if someone's style OBVIOUSLY isn't geared toward looking like a photograph, making suggestions to make it look more realistic are probably going to be ignored and not really help anyone. If the artist seems to be attempting correct anatomy and they're a little off (like me : p), suggestions of that nature would probably be welcomed; but if the proportions are obviously off on purpose (IE, the legs and arms are four times as long as the body, with huge hands and feet, the artist is probably intending for it to look that way).

E.) BE POLITE.

Your critique should NEVER contain the words "you suck", "this is terrible", "what were you thinking", etc. Critiques are meant to be helpful and to push an artist in the right direction, NOT to offend them and tell them how terrible of an artist they are. Being polite while giving a critique will help to soften the "blow" and is less likely to land you a flame. Sprinkle in compliments along with your critiques (IE, "I really like the colors here, but maybe if they were blended in a little bit more, it would work even better."), and, for crying out loud, if you absolutely hate a style (*coughanthrocough*) and have nothing to say besides "This style sucks and you should do something else with your life, you're not an artist".. Just shut up and don't bother leaving a comment at all. No one is going to change their style because you don't happen to like it. : )


taken from my friend's forum at http://www.neosynthesis.net
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Exactly the point. Kita kalau bersifat positive, maka komen
yang kita beri mestilah positive agar orang yang kena kritik
atau 'review' lebih bermotivasi. Kita tak seharusnya ego
dengan sapa diri kita dan terus menyumbang idea dan
creativiti untuk membangun dan menginspirasikan minda
dan bakat-bakat generasi muda pereka-pereka laman web.

Selain itu, kita perlu mendidik mereka menjadi lebih matang,
professional dan dedahkan dengan ilmu dunia rekabentuk
dan seni, terutama dalam nilai-nilai estetika dan metaphor
dalam penampilan dan gaya website.

Kalau kita nak maju, kenalah maju sekali. Tak guna dan sia-sia
jika kita terlalu pentingkan diri sendiri dan biarkan bangsa kita
jatuh dibawah. That's why every comment dan kritik yang dibuat
perlu dinilai secara matang, creative, intelektual dan bersifat
terbuka.

Sekian.
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Old 26-07-2003, 10:15 AM
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be polite as well

yup, aku setuju dgn pandangan Muid Latif.

Kita perlu lebih bersopan (BE POLITE) dgn pendapat atau kritikan kita sendiri. Kadang-kala kita tidak perlu terlampau jujur sangat (TOO NAIVE) ketika memberi komen.

Apa perasaan anda, apabila dikritik "engkau punya kaler buruk dan tak sesuai langsung! Cuba la pakai kaler lain...." Jadi, apa perasaan anda, sedangkan anda telah habiskan masa berjam-jam atau berhari-hari utk siapkan hasil kerja anda. itu cuma sebagai contoh sahaja

Contoh yg aku boleh bagi, korang boleh baca kat > http://www.abnormis.com/modules.php?...hread&tid=1008
betapa hinanya org yg macam tu pada mata seorang artist. Sekadar renungan kita bersama utk mempertingkatkan cara kita memberi pandangan
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Old 26-07-2003, 05:28 PM
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wah.. terimakasih atas korang2 punya cadangan.. bernas2 sekali..
bukan ape.. sekadar mencuba2 nak belajar jadi reviewer
sila tunjuk ajar.. hait
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Old 28-07-2003, 09:30 AM
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no problem sebenarnya cadangan-cadangan kat atas tu utk kita semua. kalau ada sesiapa yang terkecil hati dgn kritikan yang aku beri (atau sebaliknya), sila lah tegur/pm aku. jgn simpan dlm hati Sebab, aku pun masih belajar.... Pada pendapat aku, forum adalah utk bertukar-tukar pendapat atau cadangan, bukannya utk melepaskan geram

all the best for webmastermalaysia!!!

to mysticmind, kalau engkau ada terjumpa kat mana2 site atau buku mengenai apa yg dibincangkan disini, postlah kat topik ni. Mudah2an boleh menjadi rujukan kepada ahli2 webmastermalaysia. what do you think?
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